been using perma pro for years thought i'd try something dif. for a change so got some skin candy ink, it not only suck's..... on three of my clinets it became all oozy! looked infected it was'nt but it looked really bad .i never had ANY!!! probs. with perma pro AT ALL!!!! so please don't use skin candy...... dump it all out!
monster mash
has any one had a prob. with skin candy ink?
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Ive only tried theyre sassyfras or whatever its called green two other artists in my shop tried using it and had trouble getting it to go in so they gave it to me where i tried to put it in it just looked like i had packed water into the person over and over havent used it since I use Eternal and Starbrite has always been a consistant go to
Erik
Yeah, not that great... more filler than pigment. you can tell the difference in the weight.. grab a bottle of intenze and you can easily feel the difference on just an ounce... I second... "dump it"!
yeah...ive bought a load of skin candy and bought it on reccomendation that it is good tuff... if it sucks the seller will drink it...damn expensive stuff...got friends in california who will trash the factory....you guessed it..i hate being ripped off and there are to many naff suppliers trying to get in on the act with absolute zilch to offer...get a proper job instead of tryin to rip us off
Anyone with bad bottles please send back and i will PERSONALLY see to it you get replacement of best of the new stuff, recently spent over 6 figures improving
new formula, Eddie Deutsche filled my entire back with SKINCANDY last year and its perfect, Baba Tenessee dave and Rick Walters at Vintage tattoo use it daily
with no probs. please contact me before talking smack
and I'll hook you up.
August Worchell
owner Skincandy inks
thank you
818-567-1848 have my assistant Philip grab me
also if you guys want to see pics of my back or other tattoos where my ink is used, please
leave email address, I want to squash this so we can move on and get you guys some killer new product, like i said. ill replace any bad shit, i stand behind my product all day, i didn't get to where i am by making all bad inks for 10 years, there was definitely a period where the ink wasn't as good as
i wanted them to be, i am quite aware.
thanks
August
owner
Skincandy
i am an australian tattoo artist who recently bought some of this ink online. i will have to say with regret it was f**CKING expensive and unfortunatly i found the same problem..... felt and looked like water, didnt hold its original colour from the bottle, how am i supposed to return something that is half use from another country.... all the clients i used it on i had to rebook for touch ups, wish i had stayed with starbright or prizm...
look maybe we just got a BAD BATCH or something, i would love to hear some results of testing and because of the show miami ink on foxtel in australia eveyone seems to want to try it. i am the first studio in my area to try it and badly dissapointed, i would love someone to contact me at [email removed] for some help.....
id love to keep using the brand but my first batch didnt do the job the price should have done....
dissapointed but illing to give it another go ....thanks
PS. i even went to the extent of contacting the reseller who basically told me to f**k off and wouldnt do anything about it.....
i even started to advertise how good the ink was before i actually tried it on my website, to catch a few extra clients.... but unfortunatly after using it i had to remove it from the site and apoligize to the clients i had used it on....
it cost too much to buy the ink, use the ink, then have to redo have the work because the pigment wouldnt "stick" is it possible there are frauds out there ?? like i said would love some feedback....
this has been a costly event for my studio, but like i said too many people in australia want to try it, but because of its cost, no studio but me ws willing to try it.....i would love to be able to give good feedback but how ?? there is a massive possibility for this stuff in oz???
Ok something is strange here, all of our new ink bottles have medical shrink seals on them, if your in Austrailia and getting it there, its being bootlegged because we have no Australian distribution . Like i said call us with your shop address and send the old bottles back to
Skincandy 3940 Laurel Cyn blvd #649 studio city california 91604,
make sure to write your shop addres so we know where to send your ink
this is the owner and i want my customers not to feel ripped off.
thanks
like i said as far as i know, the inks i bought were from a reseller on ebay in america.... the colours bough were in a package containg:
a 14 colour starter box of 1oz bottles for $156 us shipped....
it contained Whitegirl 2. Candy Apple Red 3. Red Hot 4. Marz 5. Dolemite 6. Blisterine 7. Tastywaves 8. Sassygrass 9. SRV Teal 2 10. Bellbottom Blue 11. Ripple 12. Muddy Water Blue 13. Razberry Creem 14. San Brownadino
the colours i used were the red hot, candy apple red, sassygrass green, and bellbottom blue....
im not sure whether your aware but as well as this cost it would cost me at least $80-$100 us to ship these products back, along with the cost of touchups, im looking at a total loss of about $300 us just to get what i should have in the first place......
sorry but i cant afford to loose that much money and have more products sent back to me of the same quality... you are welcome to check my site or email me at http:/ink-in-skin-tattoo.webs.com or [email removed] to keep this outa this web forum...
just confuses me also as to why and how such a prominant brand and product owner ???? could be on such a website ?? or could it just be a scratcher trying to be a hardcore lol...
I forbid all my American distributors from selling on Ebay, Ebay is not the place to buy tattoo equip, if you bought it there then it may have been
reproduced in China. My main distributors are Technical supply in the U.S.
and Powerline supply in Europe where my inks are now certified to EU code, anything could have happened to that ink if purchased on ebay, it could have easily been tampered with. If you guys want me to help Id be happy to, if you wanna just talk smack then I cannot help.
thank you
August
owner
Skincandy
fyi, if youu dont believe who i am, please call the factory at 818-567-1848, my asistants name is Philip, lv message, ill call you back.
thanks again
Aug
I tattoo here in the us and purchased it directly from the Skincandy website,
ive had no problems with it whatsoever, in fact all the new shit is unbelievable, the old stuff wasnt so great, you guys should be happy
August is willing to take the time and cares enough about his product to try and fix the problem, that kind of customer service is non exsistant today
in case no one read my feed properly, i have heard so much good things about skin candy i wanted to see for myself....
i also said i must have got a "bad" batch or something and would love to get this situation rectified so as i can try the real deal and have the products available to my clients who asked me once or twice a day if i stock skin candy......
i did not talk smack on the product itself, just the batch i had sent out, its is now 3.09am in australia so i will have to call monday if you are available, but i will need the prefix to contact the states from australia....
"""PS"""" i am confident that my particular situation will be sorted out....and that i will continue to put the product in my shop and website.
""PPS"" my only problem in being in australia is that shipping these products back is expensive.... i know andbelive that i will get a good response from this, im just hoping that when i give you the information about the seller i purchased this from, that you are going to be able to prosicute or something to get these fucking chinese or hong kong bastards back lol......
cheers from OZ
August/Skincandy,
Just thought I'd give you the 'heads up' re:Dylan and his posts. See the thread 'Australian Tattoo Studios' for further clarification. Although I've never tried your inks, it pisses me off when a 'poser' makes comments that could feasibly effect your rep and it would certainly seem that you are trying harder than most to stand by your product, which I respect. Check the post referred to and bear in mind he did say he bought it 'online on Ebay' which IMHO should give another clue as to who/what you're dealing with. I can't even imagine any true professional who'd buy ink thru Ebay but then, Dylan isn't a true professional. Doc
Thank you, just make sure you get it from me next time, shipping
is insanely expensive and I'm currently looking
for an Oz distribution hub, you should see our ups bill, about 12k a month
and thats mostly local US stuff, and for the record, all new Skincandy has a medical shrink strip seal with a SKINCANDY LOGO, which i had designed specifically for the 1 oz and 2 oz bottles. No other ink company has this as of yet, its the same type of seal you'd see on a medicine bottle like Tylenol. Also there should be VERY LITTLE OR NO SEPARATION in the new inks, I'm now using almost double the pigment load as before so there should be no problems with lightfast integrity or opacity, it should go in like
butter.
Aug
Dear DR DICK, are we really gonna start this shit again..... i need to make my point
i will prove the purchase and the quality by sending the products i bought to august.....
and to be honest with you, who the fuck is going to spend a huge amount of money buying inks direct from the website and pay such a big amount if your not going to be happy with the way it sit or the quality, your going to sit here and tell me that youve never "tried" neww ink or new products??? and that even if you did you would buy it at full price even if you found out by trial and error of the product that you didnt like it ????
dude grow the fuck up, buying a product to test is quite normal. everyone has done it from scratchers to "so called" professionals like yourself, so if your gonna talk smack about me at least have some proof to back it up .....!!!
and like i said i will call august direct on monday, tell him about where and who the product was purchased by and personnaly send these products to him at my own cost just to prove your stupid ass wrong....
its people like you who make me wanna laugh, your life evolves around this website and trying to down anyone who you think isnt up to your level. well you know what dude.... you dont have a life or a level or any fucking skill what so ever, what was it gina called you? a fucking hack, this isnt the first time youve tried to down someone who has got something better and more important than you to say...
grow the fuck up, and for a change how the fuck have you not of skin candy ??? i mean even if you havent tried it there fucking shit is in every country and on just about every fucking television program on tattooing.... its no wonder epople want to try to copy or replicate there pigments....
fucking loser
And thankyou august for identifying that there is a problem or at least someone trying to replicate your pigments.... i will call on moday and we will have this sorted, i will place a new order with you directly and im sure i will be more than happy with the quality of product you will send me out, thankyou.....
Diane (Dylan);
Posted by Dylan from IP: 124.178.46.122 on 09/19/08
Australia
'Dear DR DICK, are we really gonna start this shit again..... i need to make my point'
Yeah, I guess we will be 'starting' this shit again' since you chose to post again, in the manner you chose to.
'i will prove the purchase and the quality by sending the products i bought to august.....'
The point is you bought it of the internet from EBay, not a reputable supplier, there IS a difference, moron.
'and to be honest with you, who the fuck is going to spend a huge amount of money buying inks direct from the website and pay such a big amount if your not going to be happy with the way it sit or the quality, your going to sit here and tell me that youve never "tried" neww ink or new products??? and that even if you did you would buy it at full price even if you found out by trial and error of the product that you didnt like it ????'
For your information most concerned pros buy only from the distributors, knowing it's the only relatively safe way and if it cost more, so be it, it's a 'write off' anyways and , at least some of us put our client's well being and our reputations ahead of trying to cut cost taking risks. Over the years I've tried many different brands- at full price-and never hesitated to throw out any that did not perform well or that I got RELIABLE negative info about but then, I've got enough experience to learn ahead of time which products are 'safe and good'.
'dude grow the fuck up, buying a product to test is quite normal. everyone has done it from scratchers to "so called" professionals like yourself, so if your gonna talk smack about me at least have some proof to back it up .....!!!'
If you'd bother to read and try to comprehend what I've said, I believe I have shown 'proofs' or can't you read any better than you can 'tattoo'?
'and like i said i will call august direct on monday, tell him about where and who the product was purchased by and personnaly send these products to him at my own cost just to prove your stupid ass wrong.'
You most likely bought a 'mark off' so the rest don't mean squat to me.and, IMHO, shouldn't to August either..
'its people like you who make me wanna laugh, your life evolves around this website and trying to down anyone who you think isnt up to your level. well you know what dude.... you dont have a life or a level or any fucking skill what so ever, what was it gina called you? a fucking hack, this isnt the first time youve tried to down someone who has got something better and more important than you to say..'
It's people like YOU who come onto a site like this seeking info to do shitty work that make ME laugh. The Fact of the matter, my life revolves around tattooing, not this or any other site. As to the rest, consider the source and back it up with facts (as I did) or fuck off. To me, if you can back it up with fact/proof it is credible, if you can't it's just shit slinging.
'grow the fuck up, and for a change how the fuck have you not of skin candy ??? i mean even if you havent tried it there fucking shit is in every country and on just about every fucking television program on tattooing.... its no wonder epople want to try to copy or replicate there pigments..'
Since I use inks that I know are safe, hold up good and never cause I've not felt the need to try anything new simply because it's used on TV shows. That and I've been around long enough to know the 'latest and greatest' is usually a hype and prefer to wait 'til it's been out and used for awhile before I piss money off on it and/or risk my rep and/or my clients health and/or having to redo a tattoo at my expense since the stuff did not live up to the makers claims.
'Fucking Loser', coming from you, well, that really matters a lot, Scratcher. As to your claim to have done an apprenticeship, I'll put as much credability to that as I do to the rest of your b.s, considering the lame questions you asked here and the work displayed on your website., Poser. Doc
ANOTHER FOR THE RECORD, almost anyone with a long track record of tattooing in the U.S. knows I started and coined Skin Candy around 99 but technically started making/mixing ink, selling shop to shop in San Francisco in 1996 when Ed Hardy was tattooing my back. Originally I had a partner who was working at Tattoo City for Ed.. guy named Nalla who showed me the basics then quit after 3 weeks cause it was too messy for him..lol, 1999 I placed the first Skincandy ads in Tattoo magazine, back when I was killing myself and my back mixing powder in blenders all day. So regarding the comment
whats all over T.V. and new, I'm not new to the game, anyone that knows me can vouch.
RE ANNONIMOUSE COMMENT WILL TRASH THE FACTORY.
If your little buddies show up on my doorstep they will be greeted
by a 12 GAGE and 6 hard head employees, The L.A. police dept
is just around the corner from us as well. I've made them aware of your comments on this forum. I await your arrival.
TRY ME.. I PROMISE YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED.
AUGUST
Thankyou to a real "actuall" professional, someone who admits mistakes and will do all to fix them.....
you on the other hand drdick, again mate on the third feed.... what the fuck is with qouting what people say ?? what you think we cant scroll up to fucking seconds to read what was writen before ???
why do you spend all your time defending yourself. if your that great of an artist then start talking about something important to the world of tattooing....
not spending all your time trying to make yourself look good because you studio is too fucking empty to actually be doing some of this so called 'professional' work...
qoute me and that i dare you lol, loser....
Tattooers need to understand there will always be certain colors that work shitty, not all skin is created equal, most pigments start out the same, the only thing that makes them different
is the development process or grind, and pigment load. When your making large batches of ink some bottles may get less pigment because so many bottles are being done at once. about 2 years ago we were struggling with this process. To date, re new batches, were using a much more expensive
dispersion an adding double the pigment load, THERE SHOULD BE NO SEPARATION IN THE INK IF VERY LITTLE . We haven't had any complaints in at least 9 months from any U.S. distributors. Like I said before, all the current Skincandy has a medical strip seal like what you see on a medicine bottle, be sure you have this when you receive product. If it still sucks, call the factory and I will personally call you back and refund all your money.
August
This is one of the more ridiculous threads I've wasted my time reading.
August- I think you're professionalism is fabulous, and any customer should be thrilled you'd be willing to ship new product to replace one you admitted may have been inferior.
Dylan- You're instigating and acting like you're above it. August offered to replace your inks even though you bought them ON EBAY. Thats not only unprofessional, it could be dangerous for your clients. Who knows who was selling the inks, if they were used, tampered with. Maybe the inks were a bunk batch, but the fact that you bought them off ebay, in my opinion is ridiculous.
Everyone else- you have too much time on your hands when you get to the point your insulting people choices in they way they format their posts, or whatever other lame insult you can think of.
August offered a very professional approach to solving the problem. Anyone concerned you have said thank you and personally emailed him to avoid this public debacle. Although, it certainly entertained me for a few minutes.
Good luck getting the situation resolved.
Thank you Mary, on that note I'm leaving this thread, thanks to all who supported me, the rest of you may continue talking whatever trash
you need to about Skincandy, I tried and help and believe me, I'm a pretty busy dude. I can promise you this, you won't find Mario Barth from Intenze
or any other major ink manufacturer
on a forum like this talking with folks or even bother to care if there's a problem.
peace
Later everyone.
Aug
Oh I forgot, anyone who want's to get on our myspace link its
myspace.com/skincandytattooink
Well I recently ordered few bottles of Skin candy and after reading this stuff I'm keeping my fingers cross that it is good quality stuff. It is very expensive and I'm paying that much to gurantee quality results. I woudn't want to loose a customer over bad ink. There's so much competition round here I have to be the best and use the best to stay in the game.
how can I talk to someone from salon.I am from Romania and I want to give me some advice.please help me.My id [email removed] thanks.
i even started to advertise how good the ink was before i actually tried it on my website ...says "dylan"
that sums up the whole thing. why would you lie like that?
makes no sense...forget the fact you bought off of e-bay.
also, if you don't like a flavor of ice cream you bought to "try" do you throw a hissy fit? It is called trying it out...if you know how to tattoo, you should know that some inks don't work with some machines and needles or with a person's hand speed...or a billion things. you should be able to know WHY it does not work and move on....not blame the seller.
I use pigments from a variety of brands....some reds from these peeps...some blues from here...yada yada yada....trial and error to see what I like. But I don't try and freak out on the brands I don't like...just move on.
Skin Candy? Well, I have tried a little bit..I am smart enough to not buy a ton of it without TESTING it. I like some colors ok....but, it has been a while since I tried it. Maybe it is better....I know I am since then. Everyone gets better at what they do if they are in it for the long haul.
listern here cray mcGay, how the fuck am i supposed to TEST it when im from australia?? not your fucking problem to begin with....
the point here is the problem has been solved, and thanks to august and his excellent customer service skills and putting his neck on the line, i did buy a brand new set of his pigments directly from him, and you know what ???
BEST FUCKING SHIT i ever used, this has been made clear with proof on another forum!!! I was wrong to question someone like him with such good morals, but at the end of the day i have apologized to him, had my problem sorted, and bought a brand new batch with safety seal so i know its legit.... best thing i ever did...
at the end of the day i look up to him in being man enough to admit there were some fakes or faults in some batches, but at least he was that! man enough, and i was also man enough to admit my mistake and fix it from my end too,
Once again thankyou aug, i really app. it....
Hahahaha...
jesus I haven't been called that since 1st grade.
Is that the best you got? If you are that creative with insults...I would love to see your tattoos.
fucking hillbilly.
go crawl back into your dingo hole and shove a didgeridoo up your ass and suck a platypus cock you fukkin backwoods kangaroo tit.
hahaha...you would'nt know that there are actually some of the best pigments out there in your own dusty backyard now would ya? Little guy named Troy , lives down under...
anyways...you keep throwing fits...that will get you REAL far. good luck with that.
I'm quite sure such high recommendation coming from a lying, disrespectful Aussie turd tattooing out of a 'port-a-studio' set up in his back yard is going to really boost the sales for SkinCandy which is supposedly sold to 'pros only' While I do respect August for standing behind his product, I am a bit disappointed that he sent this scratcher replacements AFTER I tried to warn him what he was dealing with earlier in this thread, which he either ignored or didn't bother to read.
Please dont anyone hold what has happened here with Dylan against us legitimate aussie artists.....PLEASE
this dylan wanker, with his home "ink in the skin studio"
is a back yard skratcher. possin as a pro.. cant get ink to stay in the skin.
scars the fuck outa people, talks shit all over the net. and has a rockstar attutidude to boot.. poor kid has takin one to many cocks in his ass.
he aint never bought ink.. he lied his ass off to get a free set to go with his ebay starter kit. he was also lieing about being a member of the PTAA.. (professional tattoo assoc. of australia) dylans website is http://www.ink-in-skin-tattoo.webs.com/ his been busted allready postin pics of others work on his site claiming its his.
this dylan wanker, with his home "ink in the skin studio"
is a back yard skratcher. possin as a pro.. cant get ink to stay in the skin.
scars the fuck outa people, talks shit all over the net. and has a rockstar attutidude to boot.. poor kid has takin one to many cocks in his ass.
he aint never bought ink.. he lied his ass off to get a free set to go with his ebay starter kit. he was also lieing about being a member of the PTAA.. (professional tattoo assoc. of australia) dylans website is http://www.ink-in-skin-tattoo.webs.com/ his been busted allready postin pics of others work on his site claiming its his.
Re:
Posted by Tatzy from IP: 121.219.230.134 on 10/06/08
australia
Please dont anyone hold what has happened here with Dylan against us legitimate aussie artists.....PLEASE
Tatzy, As someone who has not only seen some of the good work coming out of some of the legit Aussie Tattoo Artist but
as someone who has also met a few of you in person, I seriously doubt you need worry about this poser affecting THAT. I'd think anyone with a functional brain would realize there are 'posers' in Australia, just as there are in the States and pretty much everywhere else. But I am happy to see some of you Aussies post on this, for one thing it supports the fact that I'm not the only one who saw thru this asshole for what he really is. Thanks for your post.
Re;
Posted by [email removed] from IP: 121.44.204.39 on 10/06/08
this dylan wanker, with his home "ink in the skin studio"
is a back yard skratcher. possin as a pro.. cant get ink to stay in the skin.
scars the fuck outa people, talks shit all over the net. and has a rockstar attutidude to boot.. poor kid has takin one to many cocks in his ass.
he aint never bought ink.. he lied his ass off to get a free set to go with his ebay starter kit. he was also lieing about being a member of the PTAA.. (professional tattoo assoc. of australia) dylans website is http://www.ink-in-skin-tattoo.webs.com/ his been busted allready postin pics of others work on his site claiming its his.
Thanks for another confirmation of what I've thought and stated about this 'poser', not just on this thread but on others he's posted on. Although I hadn't heard of his stealing pics of work and posting it as his, it does not surprise me in the least, considering everything else about him, I would like to mention he is no longer posting his fraudulent claim to being a member of
the PTAA as I contacted them about that claim and they appparently contacted him about it as at least THAT lie is no longer on his website.
Again, it's great to have Aussie's weigh in on this, thanks for your post.
Hopefully we have heard the last from this 'poser'.
I ordered 3 colors from skin candy lime green, Tokyo orange and yellow. As you can see the lime green really sucked, the yellow sucked as well but the Orange I found to be excellent. I actualy went over the skin candy colors with intenze colors in an atempt to save the work. So I guess there you have it some colors are great and some are not ,through trial and error you figure out which is usable and which is not.
i see loads of top artist using skin candy at conventions. so that means his inks must be good.
i got a few colors off him and they are great. like all ink manufactories not all colors from the line will be liked.
had to say im no tattoo god but had a peek ay dylans site and 90% of the artwork suck ass i really hope this guy dont enjoy doing his stars because there terrible
and hats off to august top man for his offer on replacing or refunding inks
just out of intrest what needle grouping where you using on this what taper ive seen many people claim a certain ink just wont go in and not even attempt changing the needles there using or realise there using the wrong type ;)
H