IM WHAT YOU GUYS CALL A SCRATCHER, ive given a couple of tattoos some turned out good and others were pretty bad. now i am getting what looks like to be a staph infection all over everyones skin.noboby wants to give free advice becasuse either they think they loose money or they are jealouse. ive got 3 guns and alot of inks my middle bedroom is almost like a tattoo shop, so i wish someoene would tell me how to adjust my gun properly for linning and shading, because im going to do it no matter what and NO I WILL NOT GO AND SEEK AN APPRENTICESHIP. this is a free country and if i want to exp. in the art of tattoos so be it! just give the free advice (if you even know it) and stop all the damn trash talking. and by the way does any one else have trouble with PRIZM INK? im going to be a tattooer with or without help, SO WELCOME ME ABOARD IM HAPPY TO BE ONE OF YOU GUYS! THANKS, MASACURE
I BOUGHT MY KIT OFF OF E-BAY
55 messages · last activity 6/2/2012
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FOR REAL MAN????????
Don't even bother wastin your time talking to this guy..
Obviously he is either a joke, or the dumbest muthafucker i ever heard of!
so please don't reply to this guy... lets just ignor him!
Baker sendz............
YOU FUCKING MAGGOT ASS STUPID SHIT YOU ARE THE PRIME EXAMPLE TO WHY PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BREED!!! U DEMAND WE GIVE UP ADVICE U CALL MACHINES GUN FOR THE LOVE OF MOSES AND THE BURNING BUSH! G....F....Y IGNORANT ASS
I JUST COULDNT RESIST
Free advice with no trash talking:
1)Send everyone with "staph" infections to the emergency room of your local hospital
2) stop expecting people to give you free advice
3) Since you won't look for an apprenticeship, Take a BBP/CC course and drop $5000 on a crappy tattoo school. If you are not going to stop what you are doing, at least do it without killing or scaring anyone...By the way I do not condone what you are doing, or that you continue.
That's about as polite as you are going to get around here.
Your welcome.
Look people...this post is from a troll..and someone is just havin fun stirrin everyone up...Just igore...they will go away!!
i agree taz but its soooooooooooo much fun blowing steam off
Yeah Dude, and where'd ya get your brain? On Cra-gsli-t? Tell your mom there's still time for an abortion!
Sorry in advance to everyone else.
TCE
Well you guys said it all but I think he will probably need to know what your abbreviations mean.....caribou.
BBP = Blood Borne Pathogens
CC = Cross Contamination
Sorry had to say it....it made me feel smarter in a way ;p
Mike
" SO WELCOME ME ABOARD IM HAPPY TO BE ONE OF YOU GUYS! THANKS, MASACURE "
No, no your are not one of us guys.
And with your outlook, you never will be. Please stop.
WOW!
MASACURE13
ok i will help you tune those "guns"
oh wait a minute what the hell is a tattoo gun?
i know how to tune a tattoo machine.
how many Hz are you running for liner and for shader
whats you duty cycle reading is it high or low ?
whats your fallow through at ?
i mean we can not help you with out knowing these things.
first of all I hope this is a joke,but if it's not the people you infected should seek medical attention right away.I myself tried tattoing with an "net kit"but I did my home work on bbp-cc .I also got an autoclave(not cheap!).I can tune machines to do anything you want,but it did'nt make me a good artist.so for now I stopped scratching and started drawing.If you have to have something to do with tattooing try drawing&selling flash or building machines. if you're any good I'm sure someone would take you on and show you what you need to know.For now you need to stop infecting people(prob friends&family right?wadda guy!)before you start an epidemic of god knows what.
fellow artist
i'v figured something out on here.
when a scratcher jumps on here asking for machine tunning tips,
just try to help them.
just ask them what thier duty cycle, fallow through, and main spring back pressure is, and they'll be so confused they'll leave you alone.
Definately a hoax, WAY overdone!
damn, i've looked at buying myself a kit (professional ones, the good ones) and have looked at kits, etc... but NEVER have i ever had the thought to go on Ebay to go and look for one, let alone buy one..!!! How do you know that that shit was used or not??? It's one thing to buy a cd, dvd, from small shit to a car, or motorcycle, etc.... but a tattoo kit on ebay??? There's your first mistake right there you dumb fuck.... how can you trust the sterility of that? i blame the staph you're giving ppl on just that alone mostly, that and the fact you don't seem to know what the fuck you're doing...
it's not set in stone that you have to do an apprenticeship, it's just reccommended more highly then a school... that's what i been told at least mostly by everyone i've ever met in the tat world...
i feel sorry for your victims... that's right, i said victim's... they ain't innocent ppl no more... you've scarred them for life in more ways then one.. (no pun intended)... i really hope they didn't pay your stupid ass, cuase now they have to go get the shit you put on them covered up...or removed...
it will be a sad thing if your ass becomes a tattooist, it really will... and if you do, i hope you get 0 business... with an attitude like the one you have you won't go far. You're immature, and very (VERY) unprofessional! You're rude... You have no respect for nobody, not even for the ppl you already inked... cuase look how they turned out.. you a 'staph-er', not a 'scratcher'... congratulations, you can give staph real well... maybe you should study to become a dermatologist now so you can treat it...i doubt you even have the brain power, oh excuse me i mispoke, the brain, to even handle that...
maybe you should stop being a cheap bastard, save up money and get yourself a better kit, not from ebay..
maybe you should stop being an asshole to the ppl you actually ask for help, then maybe you'll get some. ever hear of don't bite the hand that feeds?? well, my friend, you're fucking biting a chunk out of everyone on this board...no wonder no one wants to help you... i gotta ask... how many boards have you posted on before you posted here? i know this ain't the first board you posted on....
and it won't be the last either... trust me, i know just from the experience of being an asshole i used to be... you're the computer's bitch right now... how does it feel? let me know, i haven't been the pc's bitch in a while... :)
Kryptik...slow down ol girl!...It was a HOAX!!!!!
Since Ebay is just an online shop at the end of the day, is it a safe generalisation that all tattoo kit bought from there is crap?
I have seen some very large tattoo equipment suppliers trading on Ebay and supplying what looks like some very good kit.
OK, you guessed it, I am a newbie and no judge of good or bad at the moment, but instead of posting that a piece of kit is crap without actually seeing it, can anyone share the details that really make a tattoo machine good.
I was in the process of writing in another thread about how unhelpful some of the artists in this forum are, then I saw this guys post and now I understand why :)
if you are for real,
and not some fuckhead just trying to get things stirred up,
I must ask you to cease and desist your tattooing, you get the right motherfucker in there and put some shitty work on him, or give him a nasty infection, you could get shot, or worse.
you take your life into your own hands when you do this.
true story: Biker party in Kentucky, not a huge party, but about 350 people on a 3 day weekend, a scratcher named Doc shows up with his works, they let him set up, because he came in talking a good game.
well I got there late friday night, with my rolling shop. heard someone was already set up, so I didnt open my doors that night.
while out meeting people and just relaxing from the long ass trip, I decided to go see what this other guy was doing
anyone with sence could see that he was inexperianced as hell, all his ink bottles had ink all over them(multiple colors on each bottle), oh ya, he was also set up in the open air, about 15 ft from a fucking out-house, and there were a few other nightmarish things he did, smoking weed, cigarettes, and drinking alcohol, while he was tattooing. and there was a complete abscence of any real sterilization. I could go on about every horiffic habit I seen, but I wont, just to keep this short(er)
oddly enough, he was doing business, but had a shitty hand.
I fuckin freaked, but I didnt say anything, I just cranked up the generator, and opened up, this is when it got bad for old Doc, people came to see what I had going on, My rolling shop is quite impressive, and clean, clean, clean.
At this point everything seemed to come to a halt for him.
but heres where it gets good, the next morning real early, while all these burly clubbies were still sober, the ones that got ink-work done realized that they got hit by a piece of shit scratcher, and snatched this asshole from his tent and beat him badly, then run him off,
im certain that he needed reconstructive surgery.
It was one of the best beatings ive ever seen. they took his equipment and destroyed it, beat his truck with bats and chains.
then I made alot of money, and had a great time.
do you understand the moral of this story?
well, if not dip-shit ill spell it out for you.
YOU SCRATCH........U MAY END UP SIPPING YOUR FUCKING HAMBURGER THROUGH A DAMN STRAW.
GOOD LUCK DUMB-ASS.
I hope you come across that 1%er that is in your future, you fuck.
Mortis
fuck all you tattooists are pure assholes.why not give advice,isnt it the way to learn.i bought a kit of ebay and its pretty good to learn with.but you pro tattooists dont wont to know that.....get your head out of your ass and give the guy some advice.....
Nah.........................you're a fag!
TCE
Spaulding is crap?
Well DUH!!!
No seriously Spaulding was at one time the shit!!! That was before we knew better...there are much better products to be had at a much less expensive price tag!!...Most pros pretty much consider the Spaulding stuff obsolete, overpriced junk...
Hope that helps!...T
Hey now, I like their golf balls!!!! They are cheap, but great for braining scratchers!
TCE
sorry taz... got worked up...
as for spaulding... i've been seeing all these posts on spaulding... that's the first thing i saw in the tat zines and i checked out their stuff as well... they looked overpriced and not good... but i have to say, I've always been a big fan of their tennis rackets.. :)
Dude!!!!
You got to be shitting me.
if you want to enhance your skills go to the supermarket and get 4 tons of melon and start trying different tuning settings yourself.
Another option is to buy fake skin (which is nothing else but a piece of rubber)
and scratch there. Don't use humans as practice, since you don't even know how to tune the machine. Stay away from people!
You can go to jail for malpractice. I recommend you tattoo 4 tons of melon before you even think about tattooing people. A tattoo machine is not a pen, and skin is not paper. Hope your post was just a joke.
Naw man...just another troll...annoying but thats about all.
look people i'm not "one of u guys" but i do think most of u are bein a little harsh on the poor fella, dont take this the wrong way but he's only askin 4 a lil help he dont wanna date ur sis or anything like that just a few pointers and what happened to people bein nice and helpful ??????? no one condones what he's doin but like myself i've been to tattooist and no matter how good a drawer u r or how well u can do this or that they dont wanna know so like me he's probably practisin on pig skin, so come on be nice on the guy for once instead of givin him the third degree
Hey, people who tattoo skin will feel the weight of the publics skin whether they choose to believe it or not. And they will pay off the bad karma they build up too, whether they believe it or not.
We're looking for an apprentice, lets see your portfolio...
u bunch of tight arsed cunts, give the guy some help coz no matter wot all the people that u verbally abuse on this shitty site when they come lookin for help are still gunna ink people whether u like it or not so stop bein a bunch of silly fuckers and give the guy a hand, if he gives someone an infection then that there problem for not doin it the right way in the first place and the victim fault 4 lettin some part-timer practise on them, i was gunna ask 4 a bit of advise of u "experienced guys" but goin off the way u did i say fuck that i aint askin no american i'll just ask a fellow englishman were nice
IMHO...
What's the big deal.. Live in the hood, scratch in the hood.. probably also die in the hood... There's nothing wrong with f' ing up people who are allready F' ed up... People here are hard minded and don't want to listen to advice unless its what they want to hear. People who expect a tattoo for $20 bucks get a peice of shit for their 20 bucks. Let the scratchers kill off the weak and keep them out of serious shops if all they want is names and crosses, maybe a tribal here and there.. If I never get asked for any of those again it will be too soon.
-An ex-scratcher from brooklyn who went and got an apprenticeship and cleaned up.
this HAS to be a hoax nobody's that stupid(i hope!) and azza with the shitty attitude you have its no wonder no one will help you! i certainly wouldn't take you seriously with your know it all attitude and pms personality. i think i speak for tattooers everywhere when i say go fuck yourself and happy scratching!!!
dont use prizm ink get spaulding or dynamite
You need a autoclave300$ new on e bay and an ultrasonic cleaner 60$ on e bay too tube brush 10$ e bay you really need MADACIDE ON E BAY only 20$ A TOTAL OF ABOUT 400$ MORE ...PRIZM IS GOOD YOU SAID YOU MACHINES NEED TUNED .... DER DA DER.... they arent tuned they arent gonna work....... if you had money for a kit you shouldve bought a auto clave or you need all disposable tubes you are obviosly not disenfecting your tubes at all.... get some tube brushes from new 2 tattoo on e bay and go to tattooxp and get disposable tubes and needles or great tattoo all have great deals... never reuse any thing please if you dont make money at least to pay for some disposable stuff.you only need about 30$ for some plastic throw aways and new needles to be used ONCE too it just sounds like your cheap ... I know you want to tattoo but be responsible..a few bad tattoos is gonna be expected but staph that killed my uncle... get new stuff now...and i would clean your tattoo room with a major cleaner FANTASTIK AT WAL MART KILLS ..STAFF ..CLEAN EVERY THING MACHINES AND ALL LET IT STAY WET TO TOUCH FOR 15 MINUTES AND SCRUB ALL YOUR TUBES WITH BLEACH AND BOIL THEM WITH 25% BLEACH AND 75% WATER FOR 45 MINUTES OR LONGER USE STEEL WOOL AND A PAPER CLIP TO PUSH THRU THE TIPS IF YOU DONT HAVE BRUSHES and if you have carpet rip it up and tile or paint the floor .. go nuts cleaning your room.YOU have a cross contamination problem... SERIOUSLY do you want to go to jail and learn tattooing from bubba I KNOW IF YOU TATTOOED MY FRIEND AND GAVE THEM AN INFECTION I WOULD TURN YOU IN OR KICK YOUR ASS..IM TELLING YOU THIS BECAUSE I STARTED LIKE YOU BUT I SPENT THE EXTRA 4 TO 5 HUNDRED ON SOME STERILIZING EQUIP. AND SOME DVD MOVIES FOR INFO it is not worth it TO TATTOO DIRTY ... CORRECT this problem or it will get worse... AND IF YOU WANT TUNED MACHINES I WILL SELL YOU SOME IMPORT MACHINES . TUNED FOR 75.00$ EACH....GET THE STUFF ...PLEASE ..... MODERN TATTOO...
Well this guy along with me is going to do tattoos, i think it is kinda terrible that most of you treat it like some top secret mission, I myself am learning everything on my own and having problems here lately, i took my class in BBP,And The first aid and cpr and TTIC . As far as my equipment i have the eikon ems 200,Pulse shader,Pulse liner,Soba set up as shader,And 2 cheap "MACHINES" as you all like to hear that was bought when i first got a "KIT" and i have petty good pigments ..MOMS...I try to order the best BUT, that can only go so far You need to know your equipment...I can run at around 6.70 on my soba shader with no follow trough 44 duty cycle speed around 103......It use to be great when i first got it Now I dont know...I DONT KNOW ABOUT THE SPRINGS...That is what i wish i knew.I dont have autoclave so i use disposable tips and grips...and use wavicide on what i can ...try to be as clean as possible...I have 2 kids & work full time job...Its hard to find someone to take someone on when u cant be there full time REALLY HERE in SC where they just started opening shops, I love it as a hobby and love doing it
Well, MASACURE is definately a joker (and I must say a good one) because, I don't know if anyone's noticed, but we're the ones yelling and screaming and I haven't seen one single reply from him other than his initial message. If his intention was to stir up the tattoo community, he most certainly did! Okay kids, fun's over, there's work to be done........move along now!
Tattoo "professionals" are just art sellouts.
Anyone that "learns" how to draw or tattoo is just a pathetic excuse for an artist.
Want to be a real artist? Help people along with the trade and stop charging thousands for an apprenticeship.
Give advice on health concerns and tips to people that want to be real artists. It doesnt take a couple thousand dollars to be a good self trained artist. But you cant pick up a foreign tool like a tattoo gun and instantly know how to use it.
Trial and error, or some innocent advice. you pick.
Fucking bastards.
Tattoo "professionals" are just art sellouts.
Anyone that "learns" how to draw or tattoo is just a pathetic excuse for an artist.
Want to be a real artist? Help people along with the trade and stop charging thousands for an apprenticeship.
Give advice on health concerns and tips to people that want to be real artists. It doesnt take a couple thousand dollars to be a good self trained artist. But you cant pick up a foreign tool like a tattoo gun and instantly know how to use it.
Trial and error, or some innocent advice. you pick.
Fucking bastards.
"no AUTOCLAVES, no guns and no apprenticeships) just make sure you have STERILE needles and guns."
that's funny. how do you plan on sterilizing your equiptment without an autoclave? and no apprenticeships? As far as i know, the apprenticeship process has gotten easier since tattooing has been modernized.
And why are we assholes for not giving you information? What makes you think you're entitled to this information for free?
What do you think would happen if you went to a college or a vocational school and asked to take classes, but you told them you think they should be free?
they would laugh in your face.
Plain and simple, teaching yourself to tattoo is dangerous and illegal, and will take you years longer than an apprenticeship.
kits are shit take pride in the kraft its not modle building or stampcollecting your fkin with real people ,wow this thrred scares me ive been in this for 13 years mostly self driven. kits they said kits i est that ive got a kit for ya it starts around 75 hundo with everything you need to run a shop with one bay stay away from kits and staff guy stop doing that and start darting in and out of custom shops and ask were you need to start if theyre diks try anothr start drawing painting educateing your self sorry 4 spelling im in and out too risky to get stafffffffff.
can u tattoo yourself. im practising on fake skin. i would never tattoo another person. just myself when i get used to it.
hi; not a professional either just starting to learn. trying to get some tips on setting up my shader. practising on artificial skin. bought good quality machines. starbright inks and 0-30 volt/ 0-3 amp variable labrotory powersupply. happy with the liner but unsure about how to set the shader. i've been designing for 11 years or so and love my artwork. have awlays wanted to learn how to tattoo but there aren't too many oppertunities for apprentaships in this area. any feedback would be appriciated. cheers.
machines are viking mk.1- 8 wrap coil and using variable power supply: shader is drawing .61 amps; machine has a standard spring.
STOP what you are doing - it is vital you learn everything about bbp and cc - you need to learn how to be clean before you wanna be tuning that machine theres no point having a machine that runs nice but packs in hep c along with the pigment - kits on ebay arent the best but thats not to say ebay is not the place to buy from - right now there are 2 sailor jerry machines on there at 4,500.00 theyre a little expensive for me but beautifull machines
anyway thats beside the point - MOST pro's wont tell you anything this pisses me off too as these are the guys that do it for the cash - but there are the tattoo artists who do it for the art and will share knowledge - if youy are seriouse about becoming a tattoo artist - learn what you can - if your doing it because you think it entitles you to rockstar status or it can grab easy cash - leave it there thers too many people like that trying to tattoo
in any case whatever you decide go to www.forum.ink-trails.com and read read and then read some more - get some pig skin or melons to practice on and learn to draw
OMG!! Ebay kit? Gross.. Sorry but I am on the 'assholes' side.. These guys know what they are doing.. and do it right. You cant just go out and start tattooing people then giving them infections. grosso mosso..
I would NEVER get a dodge backyard job. Tattoos are expensive but if you are serious about wanting one, get it done properly.. This guys mates are just as silly as him..
Anyways..
Peace
Bee
Every question that has been posted on here has an answer. Learning from someone who knows what there talking about. First, giving information over the internet so bubba can figure it out is bullshit. Learning how to properly tattoo is a first hand expierience. The problem is alot of you think it is very easy and you can figure it out yourself. You honestly can't be upset at someone who wont give you information. Alot of us who do know how to tattoo have worked very hard for it. Even scratchers who have taken 10 times as long to learn are not down to give out information half the time, why?? Cause they busted there ass to teach themselves. Anyone who is in it for the fact that they belive being a tattoo artist is a cool bad ass thing needs to not even attempt it. Go ride a skateboard or put some baggy clothes on till you feel cool enough. Tattooing is Art. One of the most beautifull forms of art in my opinion. It takes time, dedication and being willing to always learn new things. You all wonder why people get so upset about this. People who take tattooing very seriously do not give information because they want to be dicks. Its because even feeding some of you a small fragment of that information is enough for you to continue what your doing. There is alot more to it. And if you want information so bad and unwilling to get an apprenticeship atleast show some motivation to the art and go talk to a artist or go to a convention and watch people work. Don't depend on the internet to teach you something that is taught hands-on. And remember whether you like it or not, being a kitchen scratcher now will never gain you respect in the community of tattooing. Yes there are some of the greatest that taught themselves 20 years ago but whether you like it or not that is no longer the case. If you really, really want to be a respected artist in this industry take the proper steps and show you are willing to do what needs to be done to be one of the greatest. And please please remember this, TATTOOING IS NOT A FUCKING HOBBY.
FUCK all that hate , they have all mostly scratched before they paid to become a " true tattooist". If you know how to draw well anf fuck with a machine untill it humzz good and know how to not dig a trench while tattooing , it can be done , they start that
way so fuck the fagets who get mad at all scratchers, well the good tattooist that arent in a shop the ones who do it the same or better than them i mean, to all that hate on us hahahah we take your money,,,,,,,? Hahaha all i here is "they took rr jobbss"fuckin homo ass pussy fuck there mom and dad inbreed so called "real tattoo artist" fuck all you bitches , just run ya mouth like good little bitches,,,,,,, guy a. Is the the best tattooist , need more sivk looking
skulls tho some horror shit,,,,,,,, hey u , ya u reading this geting so pissed and waiting to talk shit yo me FUCK YOU YOU ARENT SHIT ,,,,,,,, your a fagt ass bitch dont bother talking shit i wont see it and if anyone writes shit talk back To me , ur a bitch if u write to this u r admiting ur a a bitch and inbreedish lifstyle u have
You ignorant shit stain. At least spell your bigoted insults correctly.
michigan
look you over zealouse pricks you cant sit here and tell me that everyone of you never attempted to tattoo without a apprenticship, ive seen scratchers that are better than any pro,so for you to sit and make fun or what ever you think your doing, is just pointless, these are people that have the same passion and desire that you did before you were professional, it wouldnt hurt to give advice,so remeber back before you were pros before you critisize anyone im so discusted with you people ,GET A LIFE, LATER
NICK,professional tattoo artist for 35 years,scratcher for 5yrs
Dude your message tells all of us who have a shred of respect for tattooing to not tell you shit, your made in china 50 dollar kit is not made to tattoo its made for morons who have no idea about it to wast money, one good machine cost 300-500 NOT A GUN THAT WHAT MOST READERS OF THIS POST WOULD LIKE TO USE ON YOU, GOOD LUCK WITH LIFE, IT WILL NOT BE AS A SUCCESFULL TATTOO ARTIST I PROMISE.
PRIZM INK SUCKS BUY SCREAM INK OR ACTUALLY THE BEST INK COMES FROM CHINA AND IS REALLY CHEAP FORGET THE NAME BUT IT LOOKS JUST LIKE KURO SUMI YEAH GET THAT SHIT MAN YOUR DOPE, DOPE SICK.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool, i love seeing all the subruban bandwagon douchenozzles get all worked up at a troll. lmmfao I DID INPRENTICESHIP SO I BETTER THAN U! U SUCK CuZ I SAY SO, MY EGO CANNOT HANDLE THAT I AM A SHITTY ARTIST AND SPENT 5K DOLLARS TO BE A SHITTY ARTIST FOREVER! LOLOL GTFO NEWB.
you people are fuckin funny. In this forum: fuckin wannabe scrubs with shit art calling other scrubs, scrubs. Enjoy the ego boost 90% of you fail, are at fail shops, and would have your fucking art laughed out my door.
enjoy the troll fgts!!!
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So sick of all you crabby assholes who say, "tattooing is an art form and its a lifestyle."Dont be a scratcher do it the right way" you morons didnt invent tattooing. So many various techniques and rituals didnt involve apprenticeships. You think Samoan hand tapped tattoos required showing a portfolio and years of apprenticeship or a license. you assholes arent saving lifes your no doctors. it is what it is an art form therefore there is no wrong way or right way. Grow up and stop trying to give meaning to your sorry ass little lifes. a tattoo is a tattoo no matter how its mad. losers
6 year old infection