Is this Board Dying out? WHo's here?

I really haven't seen most of the usual suspects. Did everyone bail for real? Who's here? (magic numbers on its way and voila!)

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without all the drama, theres nothing left to talk about. but i finally got my watercolors in and ive been workin alot on paintings. so im barely here.

damn, daddy rose, theval, jwerk, hotspark and everyone else where are you :'( Did you all left town or something like that? man this ain't fun. I need dramaaaa!!!! Taz I bang your sista! fight me back please. :'( Boriinnggggg

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Relax! I was just closing down the bar tonight! Jamaican Beer night!!!!! Woooooo!

Fun...I feel like going to the bar. Might just do that tonight (for the friday folks). Yeah so I'm not 21...w/e, I live 8 minutes away from Tijuana, lucky me!

Bar shift is over. I just lost at Texas Hold'em...made killer tips for a thusday though. Only one marrige proposal tonight though. I don't get it. 20 hot girls on the dance floor but waitresses get all the play. And shots. I'm hammered

Mama took big sis to the Big E,I took the little one to Chuck E. Cheese..... WAAAAAAHOOOOO!!!!!

sure is quite with all the drama gone, nice and peaceful and all about tattoos!

Exactly Gabe... I want to hear about tattoos and things relating to art...not all this other mess. SO Please quit with the inside jokes, the talk like youve known each other for years, and keep it on the subject of art. I would like it if every post related directly to art or tattoos in some manner. I may be wrong here in MY way of thinking....but this is not a home for people to get to know each other and hang out. They DO have chatrooms and messengers for shit like that. This board is for tattooers, those interesting in tattooing, all forms of art, artists, paintings, prints, and so forth. You wanna know I how this board is lacking?? For example....One of the best tattoo artists (period) had a huge art showing not to long ago in FL. Amazing paintings, at a well known and respected shop (and I dont mean that lightly)..........and nobody has even left a thread about it or posted some images. LOTS OF GOOD TATTOO ARTISTS are doing stuff like this all the time, yet, nobody ever mentions them. Its still arguments about freehanding tattoos and "skratchers". JEEZ...come on....where are some book reviews or convention reports?? Has anybody up here other than me and Gabe actually purchased Joe Capo's book set? What about Martin LaCasse? or Grime? What about Horiyoshi 3's new book that Grime's company put out?? NOBODY Feels the need to talk about this stuff? What about a comparrison of the dragon masters for those who are familar with them: Filip Leu, Mick, Trevor McStay, Mike Roper, Horiyoshi 1-3, Timothy Hoyer, Dana Helmuth, Shige, Jason Kundell??? Name some differences in their waves, clouds, colors....ANYTHING. Or what about the differences between traditional american artists. Shit....I'd even participate in a convo about the differences between the new skool graffiti guys. But NO....its the same old subjects from these boring ass people who want to talk about thier kids, or girlfriend, or whatever. The same subjects....over....and over.........and over................and over. See....correct me if Im wrong....but if tattoonow was hosting convos like the ones I mentioned above....the chances of having world famous tattoo artists (and regular tattoo artists) visit this site and participate would be greatly increased. If you were talking about Joe Capos style enough (in a constructive light) Im sure after a while he would at least say thanks or give some insight to why he does what he does. Same with others...... BUT NO....all these fools know is "painted angel"......thats cool..... whatever.

...And this was shaping up to be such a nice thread.

lickmynuts, why didnt you post any pictures

Simply because there is no need. Why hand out steaks in a nursery?? I am not TAz.....Im not here to educate people. They can do that themselves from reading, and then start intelligent convos based on what they have read, seen or experienced. I dont care about who hit on the waitress at a job, or how many beers they had. If one of them had an original Sailor Jerry tattoo story....then hey...feel free to post it up. Otherwise....get a messenger program and talk personal shit there. It is not me who doesnt have input, it is the board who lacks the need for intelligent input. When I see more talk on REAL TATTOOS AND ART, then I'll put my 2 cents in.

well, start a thread about something interesting thedn lick my nuts! you wouldnt even have to post anonymously... Joe Capo's book is amazing, who else has a copy?? Also, Niuck Baxter and Jeff Ensminger have a new set of ifne art oritned flash out, AMAZING.

Im thinking about buying his books. id only seen some of joe capobianco's stuff until i saw that link to his page at the top of this site. and good lord he has got some freakish talent man. and he definitely knows what he likes to tattoo.

Joe Capobianco's art book is a winner! I like where he shows the progress of a work.This book is a must have for any fan of Joe's work!

Seems there's been just a bit too much uneeded drama floating around here for me to really be interested in posting anything. But that tends to happen with "online communities". I prefer the real world at any rate. But the lick my nuts person has some good points really. No offense but who gives a fuck if Taz left or is leaving or took friends or whatever, it's irrlevent to the goals and passions we all seem to have for the industry. I had thought that this site was Gabe's little brainchild to educate and exploit the best parts of this industry and it's professionals to the public. I still believe that and I believe that it's working. Hopefully more than a few kids have opted to wait for tattoos , I know more than a few people have opted to not start tattoing their buddies with their shiny chrome ebay kit. And I know that I've learned alot from just reading posts myself , from professional and enthusiasts alike. The industry is for the thick skinned right? All that private arguments among this guy and that guy should be kept private if we'd like to maintain some semblance of civility. I'm sure a few people said what the fuck under their breath if they've come to this site in the last few weeks and saw nothing but your average chat family drama shit when all they really wanted was maybe a few names of artists to look up in their areas or a few convention dates to meet some greats or whatever. But whatever I'm gonna start a thread now that's rellevant , Respect to all of ya.

Good points all.. just wanted to post and say what I've seen of Joe's stuff it's top of the line.. someday I'll get an appt with him.. Craig www.creativecutgems.com

yeah princess but you should care that a man such as taz is gone... Cause like you said about the stopping kids from getting screwed up tattoos..nobody...I mean nobody was more passionate about that than taz...

Give it a freakin break, Time for all you posters to get off your knees Taz has to be raw by now

Hahaha.. no shit.. enough already!

ill be purchasing the nick baxter flash eventually, i like how it comes with the stages sheet.

Lick my nuts, I've been reading your bullshit for days now and while you do make a few valid points,much of what you say is simply bullshit and I, for one, ain't too impressed with your cowardly way of posting anonymously. If you believe your points to be valid, why can't you identify yourself with a valid name and email address. Just using the name 'lick my nuts' is rather disrespectful to begin with and I might point out rather impossible when you don't have the balls to post your real name. As to your comment 'This board is for tattooers, those interesting in tattooing, all forms of art, artists, paintings, prints, and so forth.', I'd suggest you remember the name of the site TattooNow, it's about Tattooing, not 'those interesting in tattooing, all forms of art, artists, paintings, prints, and so forth.' like you said 'They DO have chatrooms and messengers for shit like that.' You go on to say'You wanna know I how this board is lacking?? For example....One of the best tattoo artists (period) had a huge art showing not to long ago in FL. Amazing paintings, at a well known and respected shop (and I dont mean that lightly)..........and nobody has even left a thread about it or posted some images.' but neglected to mention the artist name. If you think he's so fucking great, why didn't you mention his name? Personally, I don't particularily care about someone's art show anyways unless the ART they're showing is TATTOO art and suspect few people come to this forum concerned with anyone's oil paintings in the first place. As to your comment about book reviews and conventions, perhaps if you weren't so busy being an asshole you'd have noticed there are freguent ads for both at the top of every post, every page and if you'd bother to look at the 'title' page, at the top, there is a section specifically titled 'tattoo conventions' but I realize it must be difficult to read when you have your head as far up your ass as you apparently do. As to your comment'but if tattoonow was hosting convos like the ones I mentioned above....the chances of having world famous tattoo artists (and regular tattoo artists) visit this site and participate would be greatly increased.' , frankly I seriously doubt that. For one thing, most of us are too busy with more productive things to do with their time than to be dissed by anonymous assholes who'd rather argue than listen. I know I'm fucking sick of it and I've been tattooing for over 40 years. And for you, Princess Jer, aside from the fact that you didn't seem to mind picking Taz's mind for pointers on how to try to do things right when you revealed you were tattooing illegally out of your home and making all kinds of excuses, why do you continue to come on like you are a part of 'the industry' when in reality, you're more a part of what's wrong with it? You are NOT a 'part' of it, wannabe, get that through your head (anyone unfamiliar with 'Princess Jer' can search under "why does everyone play so tight" for a better understanding) As to your comment' when all they really wanted was maybe a few names of artists to look up in their areas or a few convention dates to meet some greats or whatever', it was uncommon for folks NOT to be given the names of some good artist near them and I've got news for you, most artist at the conventions are there to make money, not fratentise with strangers or wannabes. And in case you didn't notice it, the referals from Gabe are invariably to artist who he's done websites for or have paid him to become an 'Artist member', which, of course, IS his right and sorta his 'duty' to his clients but is, still, rather exclusive of other, very talented artist. This IS Gabe's site so naturally he has every right to run it as he sees fit, but not all the good artist are members of the TattooNow members listing. So, your comment ' I had thought that this site was Gabe's little brainchild to educate and exploit the best parts of this industry and it's professionals to the public.' is a bit naive in that while Gabe (and others) have indeed tried to educate the public, the rest is limited to who HE thinks are the best and who has paid him to advertise for them and/or work at his shop. Self serving, perhaps, but again, it is his right and how he makes his living, he doesn't tattoo. As to the comments regarding the joking and 'non-tattoo' related posts, perhaps some were a bit much but some light hearted banter among 'friends' is sometimes a pleasant way to deal with some of the bullshit we Tattoo Artist have do deal with during the business day but I don't remember it ever interfering with the true purpose of our being here and is 'standard fare' on any of the other Tattoo Forums I've ever dropped in on. So if you want to turn this forum over to the wannabes, anonymous trolls and mis-informed be my quest, I'm not at all sure I care anymore particularily in lieu of what I've seen in the last week or so, like Gabe says, ain't no skin off my back...Doc

Doc, a coupla points. 1, many world class tattoo artists have posted regularly in the past before the dramafest. It always amazes me when they do, but many troll here for fun, they have been very quiet the last few months. I have no doubt they will be back. 2. When someone asks me for an artist recommendation I give em the best I can think of off the top of my head. Of course many of my clients come to my head first, but I also recommend many artists I dont work with (generally talented ones I want to work with cause I want to work with all talented artists!). Case in point, check the black and grey thread just posted. I have had artist members and clients bitch at me for NOT recommending them, so here is a case where people bitch at me for recommending people I work with, and people I work with bitch at me for not recommending them. Whatever... In short, its easy to buy my services but my opinion is my own, not for sale, and I have never and will never sell it out.

Nuts, I gotta say, I do think you have some points. There should be more tattoo talk, but I don't think that means that there should be less "family" time in its stead. And maybe I'm wrong here, but it did kind of seem like there was a fair amount of tattoo related talk before everyone got on taz for talking about his opinion on tattoos. Eh, I have to say I personally have liked the side talk as well as the tattoo talk. It helps me to just take a look at the "men and women behind the art" if you will. Business takes place at the shop (or when you're working on a piece at home)...but this should be a place to relax, enjoy a few posts about tats, and enjoy some company with the "fam"...dunno, just what I think.

Gabe, Re:1. I realize some 'world class artist' have occasionally posted in the past but I also noticed they stopped posting when the trolling got worse, at least that's my take on things during the past 6 months or so that I've been posting. For the forums sake, I hope they DO return. Re:2. I based my statement on what I believed to be true and what I saw during my time on the forum and, as stated, couldn't possibly hold that against you, especially considering your profession, so to speak. You have every right to recommend whoever you see fit and to base your judgement of whoever you think 'best' and I rarely disagreed with who you recommended but do think it was somewhat a short list, considering all the talented artist available, be that as it may and I admit, I don't think I'd enjoy being in your position in that respect, not with all the talented artist to chose from. I can well imagine, having read what you state, that you probably do catch hell when you recommend someone you don't 'represent', kinda one of those 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situations, I guess. So, if I was wrong, I was wrong but again, I spoke on what I thought, thanks for taking the time to clarify that, I respect that. And, as to you saying 'In short, its easy to buy my services but my opinion is my own, not for sale, and I have never and will never sell it out.' I like and respect THAT and sincerely hope it IS and remains true. Again,I would not want to be in your position, I do not have the patience or disposition for it. Thanks for taking the time to 'clarify' things....Doc

Hey Gabe I've been her for a few months...do I qualify as a troll just for the mere fact that I casually found this board...? man you should be smarter when you talk about your members, remember that you sell your advertising because people like us (site traffic) make your site worth something. I think that before getting all cocky you should really get back down to earth and let your rock start attitude simmer down. Not to offend but I did feel offended. Again here I go with the numbers!

"sure is quiet with all the drama gone, nice and peaceful and all about tattoos" I was thinking the exact same thing! Its hard enough to not let "real" topics get buried in this forum. Without all the BS, maybe we can focus on what the site/board is about. I don't really care who is here or who isn't- as long as are the topics stay interesting i will surely be sticking around.

Okay.. so my tattoo finally stopped itching.. there.. that's about it tattoo related from me this morning.. since it seems to be going in the direction of all tattoos, all the fucking time.. I think I'm done guys... later.. oh.. and 2nd shift at an all night diner fucking rocks on the weekends!

Eh, don't sweat it Amber. Just cause the fecal matter has hit the rotillery device doesn't mean it's all ova. Hey, at least you get tips...I get like 9%, split between the rest of the hosts O.o. But I can't complain, I get more than some. Anyways, take it easy

Craveink, now Im rock staring out on you. Why again? I was talking to doc about the artists that were posting here before the drama lightening rod was here... and doc, you showed up after Taz, Im talking about the posters that were active before taz (BT)... I do appreciate the people who post to this board, there really is no pleasing everyone... AHHHHH.

and doc, there are loads of amazing artists all over the place and I know of tons, but there are tons I dont know about. Thats why its great that other people can post their recommendations.

Oi... okay. I'm here lurking every so often when something catches my eye. I have no comment right now on everything going on recently. I will say this however.... You as a person, are only responsible for yourself and how you react to things. You are not responsible for the how the rest of the world acts. You have a choice to turn the other cheek, fight back, or to simply no longer devote your time to things that bother you. Your choice. If you don't perpetuate an issue, it usually goes away. Me? This forum started making me feel negatively even after I'd leave to do other things. I dont dig drama, it isnt my thing. I dont get my jollys off of hurting people or pushing buttons, and I dont appreciate it when other people do it either, friend or foe. Hence, I left it. Easy, problem solved. Something that is important to remember here is that there is no inflection in text. You might be meaning one thing, but because the inflection, and physical gesture/expression is not in the words, someone might take you in a completely different way. That said. I hope everyone is doing well. Gabe, I used to do what you are doing with TN on a smaller scale, and believe me, I know you have your hands full, and this forum must feel like you are herding cats sometimes. I feel for you. And I know what you meant when you said "some troll here for fun." I dont think Gabe was meaning us, lurkers/regulars/etc, he means the idiots who are only here to stir up shit and cause all this drama thats been driving people away. Take care folks. Be good to each other. Namaste- Saiyge

Popping in and out. Not into the fighting and troll language/faming. Sticking to tattoo questions and leaving personal life out. NOt sure right now about posting pics of fresh ink. Maybe when the air clears. meow

Saiyge , great post Now I’m New here, but I’m not New. Every single forum on the net is the same way if its active to any degree you can bet its drama from a circle jerk of “ Professionals “ domineering the board. The only difference here was it wasn’t Mods, Managers or The board Owner as it is in any other forum.

Tattoos are about real life, so how can you leave the real life out of it?

Doctor John....You have really outdone yourself buddy. That had to be the worst response Ive ever read. The questions you tried to raise in defense, were already answered by me in my previous post. Gabe...I think your board is filled with so much ignorance...its time to nuke em! Get rid of this thing completely for a while, or either play police and regulate all the bullshit. For example...this caracter DocJohn. Well DocJohn....I dont remember half of the bullshit you tried to speak about, however, I will do my best to make sure some valid points are made. 1. You dont care about oil paintings of another extremely talented tattoo artist? And yet, you have been tattooing for something like 40 years? Well let me catch you up to date.....the ELITE of the tattoo world usually are ARTISTS in more respect than ONE (tattoos). It is a common thing amongst GOOD tattoo artists to share techniques, whether it be painting or tattooing. And so, they learn from experiementing with different mediums (hint: Filip Leu?....does his name ring any bells?). But wait....I remember now...Im talking to a wolrd class tattoo artist like TAz with more years under their belt than this whole board combined. Well Doc, here is a comment that you should digest. Your uneducated response on the subect of art (in general), is a testament to your 40 years applying it to peoples body as an ARTIST! Goodf job fuckhead....Im sure you have the know-how to apply a large scale tattoo with ease, seeing as how open minded you are towards checking out other artists and their different techniques and works on different mediums. Haha....(is this guy real or what? HAHAH!) 2. Yes, the name of this site is TattooNow. HENCE THE NOW!. THE WORLD OF TATTOOING HAS CHANGED. Its not all about picking flash and getting "baby mommas names" tattooed on your chest anymore. Its about pressing the mark...NOW. Its about powerful images, LARGE SCALE PIECES, super clean work, INCREDIBLE DRAWINGS THAT TURN INTO INCREDIBLE TATTOOS. Its not all about schooling 15 year olds on what the meaning of a koi fish is, or where keltic comes from (but hey, thats like 5% of it.....there ya go, you too Doc John can BE ALL YOU CAN BE...in the TattooNow Army....HAHA...chump) 3. I dont know where that shit came from about Gabe only promoting certain artists.Are you that dumb, SON? I only visit here a few times a week, and Ive constantly seen Gabe refer people to world class artists WHICH HE HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH. I think your a hater, because you'll never be asscoiated with that list. I cant begin to tell you how many times Ive heard him mention different guys that even I would like to recieve work by. Yet....everyone was so sensitive about TAz and his help, while this whole time Gabe has refered kids wanting to get their first tattoo, to world class artists who's ideas stretch beyond the kids imagination. To me, and even to the kids who dont know it, recieving this type of information from the artist directly, is 100 times better than having a bunch of 40+ year-tattoo-know-it-alls telling him what their opinion is. Yes, TAz was quick to help with ALL situations. But it is my impression that if enough GOOD information about tattoo artists was being given out, then people would choose GOOD ARTISTS with experience that could give them REAL WORLD ADVICE and they wouldnt need to subsitute that with an internet chat forum. AND THINK ABOUT THIS POINT, dickhead. If kids would come up here and see talk about paintings, incredible techniques, and world class artists, then just maybe they will type in someones name like Joe Capobianco (without knowing who the hell he is), and it'll dramatically shape the way they look at tattoos. Before long, they wont even need our help, because their tastes will have grown to recognize good work. PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT.... Make sure TAz reads this as well. This is my idea of a good tattoo forum. Like I said......yall can leave all that personal shite behind, or take it somewhere else. Im not a hardass.....a personal post every once in a while or occasionally is OK. But when you have more posts about some fest or your cold or stupid shit like that, it really takes away from the board. If you read between the lines, this post should really answer the flaming against TAz and all the confusion that this board is experiencing. I, for one, say its time for regulation. Its time to make this site QUALITY. No more tattoos from not so good artists (thats my main beef with this site)....and no more bullshit talk on this forum. Shit...even if you have to, CLOSE THIS SITE, completely remodel it. The mark needs to be pushed even further, without compromising for artists who still have a long way to go. Nuff Said.

Nuts you have some good points. I think this site should be changed and the very first thing would be to prevent anonymos posters such as you from posting at all. tattooing has come a long way and will continue but this is not a forum for only the elite this is for everyone form the best in thie business to the newbie wanting info on getting a first tattoo and need ing answers to some very basic question.Seems to me you have respect only for those you think are at the top well not everyone is at the top people like taz and doc and mortis have constantly helped people on here with meat and potatoes info and should be valued for that, now you, well you are in my opininion just a no name elitist snob with little to offer this or any other forum but negative holier than thou snobbery, have a nice one, Tim

wow guess you dont need to run your site anymore gabe. Lick my Nuts apparently feels hes qualified to dictate what actions you should take to appease his standards of quality and i imagine to him you feel obliged to appease him. good lord i can only imagine you walk in around in some circa 1800's tuxedo and a monocle telling the commoners how it is. I dont think you understand art buddy. Yes the things that some tattoo artists are being able to put into skin is beyond amazing but art lies in the eyes of the beholder. I happen to like sailor jerry stuff. I have the poison pinup tattoo on my hand that even after seeing all the amazing art on this site i still love. Because i like that style of art. And yes i do know who joe capobianco is and his stuff is fucking ridiculously good but him being good doesnt diminsh other styles of art. Damn i like ralph steadmans art, but oh darnt none of his drawings look like the pinups joe capobianco does. ralph must be a terrible artist.

You really are a silly fool. I own no tuxedo...and your right...I dont have a clue what art and symbols are. The sailor jerry poison tattoo is a classic image. Simple, yet powerful. I wouldnt blame anybody for getting it, even over any joe capo tattoo. I dont ride Joes nuts, and although I have a large tattoo by him, I like other guys work just as good if not better. But I do believe Joe is an incredible artist who can draw cirlces and tattoo circles around most guys. He is pushing this art in a new direction, while not looking backwards. My talks with him have been nothing but enlightening. And dont start with me like Im making unreasonable requests for Gabe. After all the absurd talk surrounding the TAz situation and the plethora of stupid requests/threats made. Im not sure whether you were one of those making dumb requests....personally I dont give a F....but what I ask of this site isnt unreasonable. And besides buddy, its just MY opinion. You cats crack me up.

TO "LICK MY NUTS": Buddy before talking about quality, seriousness in posts and being all professional about tattoo talk, I would suggest you start by picking a "more mature screen name". "Lick my Nuts" sounds like someone that really doesn't give a shit about anything. my 3 cents and... Lick my Nutz, lol

Until things chane...Im going to continue to excersize my right to post under WHATEVER fucking name I want. Besides, it gives yall something to point at me in defence. And I hate to tell you....but I could care less what name yall post under as long as you use the same name. You are all anonymous to me. Pretty much the whole internet is.

Gabe, while I certainly don't hold you personally responcible for posters like 'lick', I'd like to ask if THIS crap is what you want this forum to become? I'm not even bother to waste my time responding to his assine comments as he's so obviously more informed than I am (or thinks he is anyways) and apparently still has his head too far up his own cowardly ass to even read what is already posted. And, Gabe, if you recall, months ago you commented that you don't get many 'old timers' to post? Wonder why not or is that becoming more obvious to you now?....Doc

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Doc the "K" was directed to "Lick's" retarded comment.

Lick, sounds like you should be running your own site man. The day this place becomes just about the art, I'm outta here. Sure no skin of ya'lls back, but I'll sure feel better about it. Like I said, I agree that we should talk about tattoos more, but I don't think personalities should be taken out. You just need to do what the rest of us are supposed to do, and if you don't like it, don't read it. If you want to discuss tattoos, then by all means, post some fuckin threads. I for one am going to continue posting as I have been, and these old farts I'm still going to consider the "tattoo family". I'm not particularly sorry if you don't like that, I can just say ignore me if you don't. This isn't just a forum for tattoo artists and other elite artists. It's also a forum for collectors, beginning artists, and other people simply interested in tattoo's in general. Dunno if you're an American buddy, but asking that no personal talk go on here is typical American style. You want what you want, when you want it, and you don't want to deal with anyone elses life. I look at it as knowing my neighbor, really. Hey man, lick, I'm really interested in seeing some of your art. Sure you don't feel the need to put it up, but I don't see why you wouldn't. I'm just curious as to your skill, and I wanna see what has you filled with such a big head. Jeremy

Meh.. I had this whole arguement figured out, but you know what? Fuck it.. nothing I say will make a damn difference anyway.

Lick my nuts, you obviously have learned a lot from Joe and the amazing artists you have gotten tattoos from, too bad you didnt learn the humility and respect part. While you have some very valid points, until you learn to speak to people with respect your just another troll people should ignore...

Gabe.....What color is your house? How many Kids? How are the threads on your tires? Doc John..........Whats your credit card number? and Pin?

Sorry. I was just getting bored with all of Licks tattoo posts and thought something personal would be a nice change.

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Lick, I am sorry if your parents didn't teach you manners, or if they did and you didn't learn well, but if you really want to take things serious you should start behaving like a person that really wants thinks to be legit. Like I said before : "consider changing your offensive nick name" there are tons of pretty screen names out there. Maybe it's just me.

Lick, Gabe called uou a troll and you still insist on posting here? Kinda needy eh? Plus, WHATs with all the name dropping? Same ones too? I agree many tattoo artists also paint/draw, but, sooooo what? If they have talent on the skin does not always translate to another medium and visa versa. Ever hear the phrase Jack of all trades master of none? You keep mentioning artwork examples. Well, I for one come "here" to see artwork on "skin". I come "here" to see an artist take his (or copied) drawing and translate an awesome copy to the derma. THAt is why it's called tattooNow. There are a million websites I could go to see the work of artists on paper, but the proof of a good tattoo artist is on the skin! IMHO. mamacat

I just wanted to thank the folks who emailed me in support and to let me know they do not share the opinions/comments posted by 'lick'. I want you all to know your comments are most appreciated and although I don't recall ever seeing all of you post here, your support truly means alot to me and it is encouraging to get. It may take me awhile to answer each of you indivi- dually but I will but in the meanwhile I hope this serves to let you know I did recieve them and do appreciate them, Thank You...Doc