first off I just read through a forum on this web sight titled "machine set up", and am slightly discouraged. people talked about contamination, gave detailed jargon, made fun of, talked crap to, and didnt really help the guy. at one point someone says they have actually talked to the guy and seen his capabilities and he sucked. so maybe it was all for the better, so whatever. hopefully I can just get some real answers to some questions that I have. I will give a little bit of my history first so that maybe we can just skip the drama.
I have spent quite a few years in prison, drug related, and while in prison I learned I could draw extemely well. of course everyone wants to find thier calling in life, and behind bars every one has thier hustles. I started tattoing from that point.
now I know how to build homade guns know how to make them work great for myself. yadda yadda yadda. I started on myself covered both my legs and one arm. started "scratching".
I am not your average scratcher, I want anything I do to be amazing.
I got out of prison almost three years ago. did the whole I can tattoo thing. never bought a kit. just went with what I knew. it didnt take long for the frustration to set in and I stopped tattooing completely 2 and a half years ago.
sense that time one of my good friends while thinking he knows what he is doing scratches damn near every day. for the past 6 months he has been trying to get me back into it with real equipment. he has no formal tatto expiriance and isnt all that great. he talks a good game and everyone wants work done at cut rates.
I helpped him prepare a piece for a good friend of ours and in my opinion he did a shitty job.
I decided to do this back piece on the friend that does the tattoos, cause I am interested in getting back into it with real equipment. I always loved it. I guess inside I hated to be a scratcher even though the word or phrase is new to me.
and true to an art I know little of, I want to learn as much as I can first.
I know about contamination. period. I am not stupid. I have been looking to buy my own "kit" before I do anything. so that the time spent on his back will get me accustomed to my machines. not his. but I would like to learn what the technical jargon is before I do buy anything.
I am going to research the terms I found in the other post i mentioned before. maybe it will help. my biggest questions stem from what I know from homeade machines, I knew agzactly where the needle placement needed to be how far it came out how far it went back inside, both for laying ink and actual puncturing the skin. I have some proffessional tattoos. as does my wife. and I have watched and have asked random questions. but wasnt thinking about all this then.
can anyone stear me in the right direction. without telling me to get an aprentaship. cause we all know that that would be amazing to come by. but I am telling you it isnt always a reality. I dont have the contacts I dont have the money. I would just like to learn before I start. because hoestly I am really headed in that direction at this point.
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4 messages · last activity 10/16/2009
i see you say you are in oregon, well that state requries you to attend tattoo school, no matter how long you have been tattooing, no matter who you are or think you are. You can;t tattoo or have a shop in oregon, until you have passed the class, and have proof of doing so. $8,000 is the price of the class.
YOU SAID: "I know about contamination. period."
That's a scary, not to mention arrogant statement. And if you don't have real equipment then you don't know everything there is to know about cross contamination as it pertains to Professional tattooing.
So basically your post should have just said "Gimme a free e-apprenticeship, even though the real artists on here paid through money and sweat to get theirs. And don't gimme the important info on health and safety, just give me the info I need to start scratching again..only this time, I'll be using a shitty kit instead of a homemade rig."
How can people not see that posts like this are incredibly insulting and are not going to be met with friendly replies?
By the way, the importance of cross contamination prevention cannot be stressed enough. In spite of what it may seem, it is not just common sense. I'm willing to bet we could watch you tattoo and each of us would cringe several times at the dangerous mistakes you are making. You need legit information. Get it!
Here, I'll try and help you get started. Google these words:
Bloodborne pathogens (BBP)
First aid
Cross contamination prevention
Universal Precautions
Skin anatomy
The differences between cleaning, disinfection and sterilization
Proper barrier protection
The list goes on...but I'm guessing you're no expert in any of the above. So start there.
*waits for unappreciative reply discounting everything I said because I told you what you need to hear, not what you wanted to hear."
actually that is exactly what i want to hear, I shall google and read all day on the sanitation terms you have suggested. and to appease your curiosity will create a report on all definitions just to prove my worth.
I don't honestly want to be a scratcher. I also want to learn. this is just my first step. before I do anything, I am getting a shitty kit. and a bunch of practice skins to practice. I want tolearn before I do anything. I want to research I want to have a clue before I try and get an apprentaship. I am not apposed to the idea. I think it would be a great opportunity. I honestly think I can be great. I do not think I am now. and want to gain some knowledge. contrary to popular belief some people out here, without the contacts can't, without support or knowledge have no chance. I want to create that chance.
so listen, like I said before, I have read other forums here. I may never end up in your shoes. but what if the information you hold is the only thing keeping me from getting there the right way.
so to you inksane gina I would like the opportunity to gain that information. give me a few days and I will post again, a sort of report on the place you told me I should start.
the question I have for you is simple. you took the time to read my original post. made your own decisions about my intent or lack of. will you consider thinking of other places to start. places or phrases to research. if you feel I actually made the effort for the sake of information. will you give me more.
everyone is entitled to thier oppinion. I am not a hot head. your response was justafiable. I now shall wait for you to respond