Has anyone had any experience with The various Time Machine models? FLATLINE, ALIEN FX II, FLASHBACK, INVADER, G FORCE, THE ORIGINAL TIME MACHINE, what are some major differences between models besides price?
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TIME MACHINES?
12 messages · last activity 8/18/2010
Time machines aren't very good quality machines in the slightest. You can tune and build any tattoo machine to do what you'd like it to do if you have patience. Meanwhile unless it is a lowered number older model of time machine it's not going to make good results stock. Too many parts to come loose. Too much bullshit...
mass produced junk in my opinion...
I build my own shit... and use
aaron cain
pulse
next gen
and some old nationals...
7
As 23 said the older machines were good...not great IMO...too many adjustments foe a newbie for sure...you can get much better machines a LOT cheaper....Hotsparks by Rob Giusti...custom built just for you at $150 a pop...cannot be beat!!
In my opinion I think time machine are horrible!!
Horrible designs, and yet too many little parts,
I dig the chuck though. thats it. A lot of peep use them, I don't own any of them
but I can't stand their designs. I just bought a Watson liner and septa shader from Pulse, NOW those are the best running machines I've tested. Also some massive tuning was needed to make them running great.
I also purchased a Next Generation Aluminum Eclipse>> excellent machines as well, although I like Pulse better, frames are carved from a solid block of iron.
Stay away from "movable parts" machine. I think the most important part is to have the armature bar slot built in to the frame. I have a cheap one that runs good but I have a hard time tuning it because the armature bar slot is a separate piece and if that piece is slightly crocked or loose the machine runs like shit.
Micky Sharpz were good machine, but now same shit like time machines, they are mass producing them and stink. The old ones are still great machines.
If am dying o try Junebug's machines that dude is putting kick ass models on ebay, and he's prices are pretty decent. He custom make pretty much everything.
Building your own machine is always tons of fun, but you really need to know what you are doing.
In my opinion I think time machine are horrible!!
Horrible designs, and yet too many little parts,
I dig the chuck though. thats it. A lot of peep use them, I don't own any of them
but I can't stand their designs. I just bought a Watson liner and septa shader from Pulse, NOW those are the best running machines I've tested. Also some massive tuning was needed to make them running great.
I also purchased a Next Generation Aluminum Eclipse>> excellent machines as well, although I like Pulse better, frames are carved from a solid block of iron.
Stay away from "movable parts" machine. I think the most important part is to have the armature bar slot built in to the frame. I have a cheap one that runs good but I have a hard time tuning it because the armature bar slot is a separate piece and if that piece is slightly crocked or loose the machine runs like shit.
Micky Sharpz were good machine, but now same shit like time machines, they are mass producing them and stink. The old ones are still great machines.
If am dying o try Junebug's machines that dude is putting kick ass models on ebay, and he's prices are pretty decent. He custom make pretty much everything.
Building your own machine is always tons of fun, but you really need to know what you are doing.
www.kavemetalworks.com!!
Junebug also makes the frames for next generation. I can't say enough about how smooth and balanced they are. I have 1 eclipse for heavy line work, 1 eclipse for black and grey work, 1 orion for coloring and 1 orion for thin line. All of them run perfectly and they run great on low voltage. I also have a workhorse iron Seth Cifferi Classic that packs color like a magic marker. I would recommend sticking with machines that aren't mass produced as they tend to lead to shitty finished products. Machines from artists for artists have more attention to detail than any run of the mill supplier any day of the week. Aside from that, I do have to agree with 23enigma on the machine list. The ones he mentioned are top notch daily runners and should give you little hassle. Often times, artists find themselves fighting with their machines to get them to work how they want them to. The machine should work for you, not the other way around. Just avoid superior, spaulding, later sharpz, anything from international tattoo supply, or any of the "we sell to the general public" companies that will sell you junk because you have the cash and they only care about revenue. Good luck,
J
I am a relativley new artist but i really like time machines. I have a cutback liner and a g force shader. Both brass, and i have recently ordereds a liner shader flatline aluminum frame. After reading smome of Fowler's articles on machine building it became apparent to me that he knows his shit. Ya there is a lot of points for possible adjustment, but thats a good thing. Learn to tweak you machine for you. For instance i have recently needed to put eikondevice springs on my liner and having the half inch of adjustabillity in where the contact screw sits was essential. Time machines are versitle rather than user friendly. And i would stay away form any frame thats built with a ferric matierial that can scavange magnetic flux and heat up hella fast, old mickes for instance. I also worry about the mottled bronze on the stock arron cains, or for instance even sobas. I just see all the blood and crap that can hide in that unpolished surface.
Any how thats my opinion.
Tim Konrad
Pulse Machines are kick ass. Time Machines arent all that bad even for a mass produced type neither are Tommy's. Its really the tuning that gets things done but then again you may not like how I tune my machine, as for the parts literally coming loose in the middle of a job thats something I've never seen (except) when someone doesnt clamp down hard enough on a tube. I have yet to see a machine rattle apart like a 80's Camaro door panel. I really like some of the one-of-a-kind machines but they just keep putting that dam fake antique finish with all the little paint flaking up and yes that does hold blood. If I tat someone that I think is gross I would have to boil the dam thing or set it afire to get all that blood out of it under the little paint flaked edges. I dunno buy what you want thats what you gonna do anyway.
Danny fowler g force aluminum liner is great! Runs smooth, and love to use it.
danny fowler is a master and what a machine!!
time machines are the bomb dont listen to anybody go no other way
I love my time machines more than any other machines I own-I have fine tuned them to my liking and in the 5 years straight running them never have needed more than a tuneup on em. Once I set up my time machines I haven't been able to find a better machine and I have looked and purchased and regretted betraying my old faithful times! Don't listen to anyone really--do your homework on what you want out of a machine and spend money till you like one--lol--it's your opinion and tattoo work that matter and nothing else.